Comment from: Anthony Visitor
Paul I appreciate all the leg work you do for your info. I also appreciate that you dont simply brush me off but have good knowledgable defense to your positions.
Anywho on to the topic at hand.
Venzuela was your example of a socialist structure. I understand it is going to be held in some regard to capitalism after that is what the global economy runs on. I also agree with your analysis for statistics.
Just as a refrence I got my stats on the malnutrition rate from the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations.
(Just to show I didnt pull them out of the air)
I was reviewing your stats I think you may have typed in some info incorrectly according to UNICEF the years posted are 1990 and 2005. It would be concievable then that the change of 12 per 1000 could have happened in a gradual sense rather than a radical socialization project. This may nix the 33% decrease in deaths due to the new government.
Now lets delve into the nations you put up as the oposition when dealing with the statistics.
First Guyana. It is still a deveolping country with extreme poverty. Not to mention it only gained independence in 1966. That being said it was a (socialist) state controlled economy until 1989. I fail to see how a country rich with resources being compared to a fledgling country that is the poorest in the western hemesphere shows the radical social change.
Now lets look at Mexico and Brazil
Mexico is at 27 deaths to 1000
but in 1990 it was 46 deaths to every 1000. Not bad for a country of 40+% people under the age of 18. They managed to close a larger gap than Venezuela in the same time frame.
Brasil.... Well their mortaility rate is unacceptable considering the wealth of the nation and the level of technology. That being said they have close a considerable gap (greater than both mexico and venezuela) from 60 to 33.
About household poverty once again the facts are being overstated. The time frame is 1990 to 2005. So he technically wasn't responsible for the 30% increase.
None of the stats I've thrown out are suspect. They are reputable (I'm not quoting some crazy bloggers)
I await your response and perhaps we can find some middle ground. Look over the stats and dates and give me a heads up of what you think.
Comment from: Member
I have corrected the year on child mortality.
The households in poverty years are correct. 1H 1997 to 2H 2005.
Venezuela was my example of nationalisation of properties owned by international companies. Also some factory occupations where the workers democractically elect their management and run production, did indeed lower their working week. It was not an example of socialism.