Pen flicks in Internet Explorer 8 on Windows 7 half broken

Now that Windows 7 has RTMed, it's time to look at where we are exactly from a bug standpoint.

Last week we had a lot of fuss over the so-called check disk bug, where check disk would use up all but 50MB of RAM. When was the last time anyone here ran check disk? And as I've always said, unused RAM is wasted RAM. I'm sat on my machine at the moment and it’s got 2GB unused, come on use that RAM.

Non-issue, that's not to say Windows 7 doesn't have bugs, I've come across more than I came across with Windows Vista when it first RTMed.

The second most annoying is this one, pen flicks being broken in Internet Explorer 8.

As many of you know I am a fan of the Tablet PC, I currently use a Motion LE1700. Windows Vista brought massive improvements to the Tablet, a new TIP (Tablet Input Panel), plus handwriting recognition that learns as you use it and pen flicks, the ability to quickly swipe the screen, and move say back and forward or scroll a page up and down. Windows 7 has improved upon the old TIP. But, its suffered from one massive almost deal-breaking bug.

Pen flicks do not work to scroll the page up and down in IE8 when it's using the new rendering engine. They however work fine if you're visiting a website in compatibility mode.

As a partial work-around you can enable compatibility mode for all websites in Compatibility View Settings under the Tools menu. But this work won't for websites that declare themselves as IE8 compatible.

So worst of all, this bug will get more obvious and annoying as time goes on as fewer websites will be displayed in compatibility mode.

What's even more annoying is Microsoft is talking up the touch features in Windows 7 - touch like using a tablet also uses the same pen flicks system, so undoubtedly it will be broken for those using touch screens too.


Comment from: MarkC [Visitor]

Hi Paul,

Have you heard any news on the IE8 problem with flicks lately? I'm having exactly the same problem, and I'm surprised that your blog is the only place I've found that describes this bug in detail.

The other thing that I find odd about the flicks functionality is that the forward/backward gestures are exactly the opposite of the forward/backward buttons on the address bar by default (so you must swipe to the left to go forward using flicks, while hitting the left button on the address bar will take you backwards). You can reverse this by customizing the flicks settings, but oddly, the arrow icon changes the direction the wrong way when you switch the flick direction (i.e. when you switch so that a left gesture sends you back a web page, it will switch the arrow indication that you see to the right--totally counterintuitive.). Have you noticed this, and found any workaround?

5th November 2009 @ 18:25
Comment from: [Member]

No workarounds yet.

Yes back and forward are backward to how they used to be. But I think they make more sense this way round.

During development using pen flicks to move back and forward woudl result in the page slowly moving to the right when moving back and left if moving forward while the previous or next page would scroll into view. It was kinda cool but never worked too well which is probably why it was cut out.

So yeah to understand the new back and forward behavior just think about that the pen flick is less of a gesture, and more of actually grabbing the page is moving it back or forward - hopefully if they ever get the animated back it'll be clear.

6th November 2009 @ 21:05
Comment from: Castin [Visitor]  

My back/foward flicks doens't work with my touchscreen hp touchsmart. It does however does scroll up and down on explorer 8... If someone can help me this I'll be greatfull!!!


P.S. I can't find more information about this seemingly a problem with explorer 8.

1st December 2009 @ 04:18
Comment from: Kengo [Visitor]

Thanks for your comments. Has anyone else found that if you turn off flicks, you cannot use the text input panel? Since flicks are global, they interfere with some of the programs I use so I turned it off. However, the text input panel is actually really useful, but it appears I cannot use it when flicks are off. Any ways of getting around this??

20th January 2010 @ 19:40
Comment from: Chuck [Visitor]

Anyone know if this is fixed in IE9? The scrolling bug that is. Thanks

20th January 2011 @ 01:09
Comment from: [Member]

As of the second beta, and the newest platform preview the issue is still present.

Here's the bug entry on Connect if you wanna vote for it:

20th January 2011 @ 10:47
Comment from: Nathan Clarke [Visitor]  
Nathan Clarke
5 stars

Hi Paul. Is there any updates to the page up/page down issue with flicks? The MS link appears be be dead.

10th April 2011 @ 07:43
Comment from: [Member]

Nope. Still broken even with IE9 final.

10th April 2011 @ 16:03

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