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More Jobs BS

24th December 2004 in Technology

I don't think we're seeing trendiness here," Jobs said of the iPod. "I think we're seeing a product that's truly revolutionizing the way we listen to music."

What a total lying bastard. Revolutionary? I had an MP3/WMA player before the iPod even existed.

Steve Jobs has done nothing but steal other people's ideas since he rejoined Apple in 1996. Here's a hint Jobs - stop ripping off other people's ideas and claiming them as your own.

In reply to some of the comments:

West Crosby wrote: "Are you saying the iPod is ripping off someone else's ideas? Sure there were hard drive mp3 players prior to the iPod, but as I recall, there isn't anything out there that works quite like an iPod."

No you're right, nobody would ever dream of something so stupid to have a circle to go up and down through a menu. Jobs isn't talking about the control system being revolutionary, he was saying that the iPod was revolutionary - which it isn't.

John Papola wrote: "A world where draconian DRM is being aggressively pitched to content oligarchs like the MPAA and RIAA while ignoring what consumers really want."

Yes, it's called Apple with it's iTunes and "Fairplay", so terrified of the RIAA that they break any 3rd party applications that use the iPod, take people to court over it. They're so terrified of the MPAA they won't even support video. Don't you think it's funny that Steve Jobs, who's also a film company's CEO sees no interest in video, while Microsoft and it's partners already have devices out that can do this kind of thing. That's true innovation right there - from Microsoft. Steve Jobs avoids doing video because, like Sony (who also long refused to support MP3 in their players) they have an interset in music and/or film, so they don't want to make it easy for consumers to enjoy thier media the most, by easily transfering and copying it amoung their machines and devices. Who's really ignoring consumers?

"Or port their fantastic software products to Windows."

You mean like Quicktime and iTunes? If it wasn't for Real Player they'd have the honour of being the worst players on Windows.

"No non-mac user has a reason to hate Apple the way you clearly do. At least none that I can see. Apple-bashing always amounts to wishing away user choice."

User choice? What do Apple know about choice? Are you so blind that you can't see what they're trying to do. They're locking you into Apple, Apple software, Apple hardware, neither of which are very high quality. The advantage with the Microsoft platform (yes platform) is that it's open to choice, you can play your music on any player, on any phone you want, you can setup a playlist and have it available in your car, in your pocket in your room with the decent speaker system in. Apple is lack of choice. I've been clear in what they need to do to win this war. That is open themselves up, stop being closed and crazed with the idea that they alone can handle this - they can't that's clear with video they've been left behind due to the Portable Media Centers.

Sorry I don't want to buy several thousand pounds worth of music, only to have it all utterly useless when the iPod repeats the events of previous Apple products. The Windows Media platform can't go under because it's a rich ecosystem of dozens of companies, anyone can go ahead and license it. Apple refuse to license anything. There's no competition and no choice within their "system". You go Apple you're stuck, you go Microsoft you're free to choose any store you like, any device you like.

nony mouse wrote: "Steve Jobs stop ripping off other peoples ideas.. hahaha I have officially heard it all. I should say Im surprised at how ignorant some people in the world are"

Yes... Like some a certain vocal minority, Apple didn't invent the MP3 player, the hard-disk based MP3 player, or the online store.

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9 comments

Comment from: Bias Alert Visitor

Bias Alert

MP3 players did exist before the iPod, but it was the combination of the iPod with iTunes and the iTunes Music Store that provided a seamless, one-click purchase-and-download experience for consumers, which was far more convenient than the alternatives at the time. One-click buying was licenced from Amazon, iTunes was derived from SoundJam, but the innovation here is the combination of all elements - hardware, software, and online music distribution based on micropayments. Again, none of this is unique, strictly speaking, but the implementation is top-notch, as is the ergonomics of the device itself.

25th December 2004 @ 00:17 Reply to this comment

Comment from: West Crosby Visitor

West Crosby

What revolutionary about it? He's talking about a device that is acting as a catalyst for legalized music downloading. That's the revolution, there you go.

I don't know what the hell you're talking about? Was the original iMac a stolen idea?

Are you saying the iPod is ripping off someone else's ideas? Sure there were hard drive mp3 players prior to the iPod, but as I recall, there isn't anything out there that works quite like an iPod. Plus, they copyrighted the interface. How can this be a rip off if they patented it themselves?

You are just a flamer who's attempting to get more hits by slamming something so many people love. (And I'm only replying to your ignorance to generate more hits for myself.) You can't make a statement like that without backing it up with something. Not if you're trying to be a respected tech news site.

Oh! Konfabulator? http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Desk_Ornaments.txt There you go.

Sherlock making Watson obsolete? WRONG! Sherlock sucks. However, sherlock came out prior to Watson, and Apple had always intended for it to be a tool a user can use to get information off the internet.

iTunes didn't rip off SoundJam, because Apple bought SoundJam!!!

The only thing I think Apple might have ripped off is Liteswitch ...but I think it's Apple incorporating handy features from Windows into OS X to make it easier for them to switch.

25th December 2004 @ 00:40 Reply to this comment

Comment from: Wester Visitor

Wester

I smell an army of zealous uber Apple fan-boys.

Merry X-mas!

25th December 2004 @ 05:25 Reply to this comment

Comment from: Anona Visitor

Anona

As opposed to Windows or MS Music Store which are not rip-offs of anything done by Apple!

25th December 2004 @ 05:53 Reply to this comment

Comment from: jeffsters Visitor

jeffsters

Hey, I have two of those pre-iPod MP3 players for ya! Rio 600 I think? Anyway I don't think I ever got them to work right...but hey...send me an address and their yours! My Christmas gift to you!

25th December 2004 @ 14:06 Reply to this comment

Comment from: eponymous coward Visitor

eponymous coward

Yeah, those iApps, Aqua, iPod, ditching legacy technologies, updating a modern OS in a timely fashion, new designs.

Sheesh. Did you get the hits and attention you wanted by flaming Jobs? Maybe you can write John Dvorak's column when he's gone- he does this trick when he doesn't have anything to write about- make some made up flame about Jobs and Apple that's shows the sky's not blue where HE lives...

25th December 2004 @ 18:44 Reply to this comment

Comment from: OS X Visitor

OS X

Of course you had an MP3 player before the iPod. Steve never said they were first. What they were is the first to make it work and to make it cool. He saw what was available before the iPod and thought they all sucked. You know what, they did. Do you still have that crappy MP3 player today?

25th December 2004 @ 22:36 Reply to this comment

Comment from: West Crosby Visitor

West Crosby

You're such an asshole.

26th December 2004 @ 00:30 Reply to this comment

Comment from: a nony mouse. Visitor

a nony mouse.

Steve Jobs stop ripping off other peoples ideas.. hahaha I have officially heard it all. I should say Im surprised at how ignorant some people in the world are, but after watching clueless morons vote for bush nothing surprises me anymore.

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