Comment from: BillB Visitor
Okay, so Digital Trends are going a little overboard. But this *is* a move by MS that smacks of a desperation to steal a few points in Search market share from Google.
I daresay only a very small percentage of users would say yes if asked flat out, "Would you like a Bing search bar in the middle of your desktop?". Basically, the same percentage of users already using Bing instead of Google for search. I.e., not many.
As a knowledgeable and not-at-all anti-MS user, I was able to avoid this update without any trouble. But I don't appreciate feeling like I have to carefully police my updates just to avoid unnecessary crap.
Comment from: Lexx Visitor
I agree with the detailed analysis, but I believe another relevant aspect of the Bing Desktop update has been missed. Normally, Windows update allows AND HONOURS the ability to hide updates. With this Bing Desktop update, however, while you're allowed to select "Hide Update", it reverts to a visible optional update on the next Windows Update cycle i.e. it does not honour the hide setting.
That's not Chaotic Evil, but it's also pretty far away from Lawful Good -- at best it's Chaotic Neutral.
Comment from: Justin Visitor
It's a moot point either way. Windows update is meant to deliver updates not MS branded software as it has expanded to include under the "optional" header. Microsoft needs to decide if they want an app store or an update system and make a practical decision to keep them separate. Throwing your hands in the air and saying "well it is optional" is naive. Technically .NET is optional. The point is when I pay for an OS for my business I expect support for that product not a never ending up-sell via update. Offering the "Bing Bar" as an update to Windows Home users I could maybe see as acceptable. But pushing it out to Pro is frankly silly. Really what IT Admin worth their salt leaves the home page and default search engine set to Bing, or even IE as the default web browser for that mater? Yes thankfully bing bar is not installed automatically. Perhaps Microsoft learned something from the fiasco auto installing IE9 caused for businesses. Obviously they haven't learned quite enough yet.
Comment from: Shawn Adams Visitor
Very true, but I was thinking that maybe you could tell me why "Office Live" is now listed under "Important"?
Last time I checked it didn't add anything anyone really needed, and certainly nothing that should make it show up in the "Important" category if it isn't already installed.
Comment from: Jason Visitor
Bing Desktop got pushed to my system today without my permission. I'm not 100% sure what did it but it was pushed. I'm suspicious that Security Essentials is what pushed it - updates did not because I have them set to download only and not install because I ALWAYS review what is installed before I do it.
Comment from: LarryF Visitor
I agree with the naysayers. "Bing" anything shouldn't be in the Windows updates at all. The updates are supposed to deliver updates and add-ons that make the computer more secure and improve functionality. It's not supposed to be another forum for MS to push unneeded foistware on consumers. To that end, it doesn't matter that it's in the "optional" area. It shouldn't be on the list at all.
Plus, Bing Desktop has that aggravating habit of unhiding itself when you check for updates, which makes me feel mildly homicidal every time it happens. When I tell my computer to hide an unwanted update, I expect it to stay hidden.
It's much the same with Windows Live and Security Essentials. Those are much better offerings... but they aren't updates, and shouldn't be in the update lists. MS has been dragged to court before for foisting programs on people. You'd think they'd have gotten the message.
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