Catching homeopathic pseudoscience on the Obama's visit

I was just going over some of the BBC's coverage of the Obama's visit to London today and caught something rather odd during Mrs Obama's visit to a London hospital.

The clip I'm speaking of can be found here. Why the BBC bothers to publish such short and trivial clips is beyond me, and why the BBC calls Sarah Brown the first lady is questionable too, as we do not use the term in this country and if we did it would apply to the Queen. Anyway...

About 9 seconds into the video Mrs Obama is being spoken to by some woman, and the only thing I can make out is "naturopathic homeopathic route". What the hell? If somebody has more information about what was being said I would love to hear it. Perhaps my American readers could also enlighten me as to where Mrs Obama stands on this sort of thing, she strikes me as being a pretty intelligent woman so with a bit of luck she was just rolling her eyes at this.

Seriously why is this even being talked about in a hospital? Or was she visiting one of our world famous and utterly ridiculous homeopathic hospitals – god I hope not. The only time anything like this should ever even need to be mentioned in a hospital is if a patient brings it up, and needs to be informed about it, namely with somebody sayings it bollocks.

Worse still it's not only rubbish. HOMEOPATHY KILLS, heck so-called ALTERNATIVE... (aka not scientifically proven, made up by a bunch of random people who don't bother to do any tests, heck why test things when you can make vague claims about whatever junk you put into a bottle and sell it) ...MEDICINE KILLS.

And even worse in the UK homeopathic hospitals are funded by the tax payer, the only thing the tax payer should be involved with to do with homeopathic or alternative medicine in general is banning it and putting the proponents of it in jail, yes Prince Charles I'm looking at you, and the rest of you lot.

6 comments

Homeopathy cures even when Conventional Allopathic Medicine (CAM) fails
2nd April 2009 @ 10:59
Comment from: Paul Smith [Member] · http://www.dasmirnov.net/
Cures what? It remains unproven after 200 years, and that's not through lack of clinical testing.

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/118952006/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0
http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/content/82/1/69.full
http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/no-index/about-ama/13638.shtml
http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Homeopathy/Pages/Results.aspx?url=Pages/What-it-is.aspx (and yes the NHS are being overly polite about it).

Not only is it unproven, it lacks any plasuible mechanism to start with.

It kills by delaying access to proper treatment, treatment that is proven to work.
2nd April 2009 @ 13:16
Comment from: Mikotondria [Visitor]
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Homeopathy's prinicple is that the amount of 'active' compound used within a preparation works when diluted by a factor of trillions - so much so that statistically there is none of the original material left in the 'solution' that reaches the poor patient.
Think about that for a moment in relation to the water supply of your town, the water table and planet-wide hydrosphere..
According to homeopathic principles every drop of water on the planet should have the miraculous curative properties of every homeopathic preparation ever, as every drug, poison and pathogen ever to cause disease has been diluted over and over by what is essentially the same body of water that we all share. So if everyone is constantly taking every homeopathic preparation possible, noone should ever get sick.
But they do, and medicine cures them based on the very very hard work of everyone involved in furthering the understand of the human body by rigourous sacrifice and research.
2nd April 2009 @ 15:40
Comment from: rosina [Visitor]
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Steady on, old chap.... 'Homeopathy kills'?? Surely a bit of hyperbole there? Care to back that up with some hard evidence?
9th April 2009 @ 09:35
Comment from: Paul Smith [Member] · http://www.dasmirnov.net/
Hard evidence? How about offering some hard evidence that it works? Oh wait, there is none, because it doesn't work.

To repeat myself again "It kills by delaying access to proper treatment, treatment that is proven to work."
9th April 2009 @ 23:26
Comment from: Dontsign [Visitor]
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Lets get it straight folks -
** HOMEOPATHY KILLS **, there can be no doubt. If you read private eye you will see evidence - for example Homeopathic organisations that promote homeopathy as a treatment for HIV and AIDS, sometimes instead of normal treatment. I agree that by delaying or replacing normal treatment Homeopaths are killers. There is no supporting evidence for Homeopathy, the theory behind has pre-enlightenment worthy lack of method and does not fit in with any accepted scientific theory of how the physical world works. Individual studies can be skewed, so we must trust "meta studies" these look at ALL the peer reviewed scientific studies on a topic and draw conclusions, as they use the most evidence they are the most accurate, and they all say homeopathy is basically bollocks. It should be illegal and homeopaths prosecuted and imprisoned as con artists who prey on the vulnerable.
16th April 2009 @ 11:22

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